Welcome to The Clyde Turbine Steamer Foundation's TS Queen Mary Website
The ship which lent its name to the iconic Cunard ocean liner - and during that period was the original Queen Mary II


Queen Mary passing under Tower Bridge en route to a new life on 9th November 2009. Photo copyright of and kindly supplied by John May. 

Remembering the last Clyde Turbine Steamer and popular restaurant in London and following her in her forthcoming role as a hotel in La Rochelle.
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QUEEN MARY : THE LAST OF HER CLASS WORLDWIDE
This website is the internet's most comprehensive resource on this much-loved and historically important ship


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QUEEN MARY LEFT LONDON ON NOVEMBER 9th, 2009

This excellent photo is one of a number on this website taken by Ben Mann who was in attendance on Aicirtron, the lead tug undertaking the tow.

Click here to go to the main index page for photos of the tow through London on 9th November 2009

Would you be able and willing to help us by contributing any pictures of Queen Mary for use on this website?   If so, please e-mail Gordon Stewart at the Foundation


LATEST NEWS


Click here to go to the main index page for photos of the tow through London on 9th November 2009
Would you be able and willing to help us by contributing any pictures of Queen Mary for use on this website?   If so, please e-mail Gordon Stewart at the Foundation

11th Nov : Queen Mary is at Tilbury Dock
Check the Port of London Authority website regularly to verify her position :
Ships in port   Expected Departures  The PLA updates the lists frequently
I have heard unofficially and this is in no way certain information, that she may be in Tilbury for about a month

The tow to La Rochelle will be in the hands of Capital Marine.
Click here for a news item on their website.
Capital Marine is the parent company of Capital Boats who acted as sales agents in the purchase.

The new owner in La Rochelle is still looking for one or more investors to take an equity stake in Queen Mary. Are you interested in joining him either as an active or sleeping partner ? If so, the webmaster can put you in touch.
Please e-mail Gordon Stewart at the Foundation on this link.


ONCE SHE ARRIVES IN LA ROCHELLE ........


After arrival in La Rochelle, she will begin a 17-month long conversion into a floating hotel to be moored at the French resort's yacht marina. According to reports, she will have three suites, 24 four-star rooms and 18 three-star rooms. There will also be a restaurant, bar and fitness centre.
The new owner is M. Samuel Boudon, Managing Director of Naval Force 3, a shipyard in la Rochelle dedicated to the construction of luxury yachts as a private venture. It is expected that the refit will be undertaken by sister companies of NF3 located in La Rochelle, all part of the Pole Refit group. One company, the Atlantic Refit Centre, can handle yachts of up to 150 metres in length, almost double the size of Queen Mary.
News item on PoleRefit website

The initial prospectus issued by the new owners, including the planned capital constitution of the new company to be formed to run her
can be seen on this link

What the prospectus says is that M Boudon has been monitoring Queen Mary's status for quite some time and when the opportunity to buy her arose, he stepped in. This, along with the illustration of Queen Mary, gives the webmaster confidence that the new owner is a genuine supporter of the ship and that his plans do involve maintaining her traditional lines, possibly returning her appearance closer to the original, and doing a high quality job on her conversion.
We should be grateful that M.Boudon has stepped in to save Queen Mary for what would appear to be a bright future in an attractive location.


SPECIFICATIONS AND HISTORY


Built in 1933 by Wm. Denny & Bros. at Dumbarton, Scotland (yard no. 1262)
Turbine Steamer - Engines : 3 direct drive turbines (3800 horsepower) : three propellors  (Turbines still in existence)
Dimensions : 263 ft 4 in x 37 ft x 7 ft 6 in
1014 Gross Registered Tonnes

Built for Williamson-Buchanan Steamers Ltd for their Clyde services from Bridge Wharf, Glasgow
Twin funnels exhausing a Scotch-type boiler were painted in Williamson-Buchanan colours, white with black tops
Normal weekday schedule was to leave Glasgow at 10:00 hrs for Dunoon and Rothesay, with a range of onward non-landing cruises
Saturdays saw her leave Glasgow at 13:45 for Dunoon, Rothesay and the Kyles of Bute
Renamed Queen Mary II in 1935 to allow her name to be used for the new Cunard liner
Williamson-Buchanan (1935) Ltd established in October 1935 as her owners became a subsidiary of the Caledonian Steam Packet Co.
Only took the yellow and black funnel colours of the CSP in December 1939 and was finally registered as owned by that company in 1943
Remained on the Clyde throughout the Second World War generally between Gourock and Dunoon sporting a range of (mostly grey) camouflage liveries.
Enclosed wheelhouse fitted in 1948   
Mainmast fitted in 1954 to meet new safety regulations - and new cafeteria facilities installed in the same year
Converted to an oil burning Yarrow water-tube boiler in early 1957 when one large elliptical funnel replaced her two funnels
Radar installed in 1960.
Masts shortened in 1969 so that she could sail under the new Kingston Bridge on which a new motorway ran through Glasgow
After the 1969 season, Glasgow sailings were withdrawn and she sailed out of Gourock
Refitted in 1971 and undertook sailings as far as Campbeltown, in succession to the withdrawn Duchess of Hamilton
Her original name was restored in 1976 after Cunard's Queen Mary was removed from the register.
In her later years, sailings to and from Glasgow were restored
Withdrawn in 1977 after local government tourist development grants were withdrawn and given to support the paddle steamer Waverley.
Her final cruise was an evening "Showboat" cruise from Largs to Rothesay and through the Kyles of Bute on September 12th 1977.
Laid-up at East India harbour, Greenock.
Sold to Glasgow District Council in June 1978, but plans to retain her as a museum on the Clyde came to nothing.
Sold for use as a restaurant on the Clyde.
Sold to Euroyachts Ltd and then in 1981 to Tesright Ltd and moved to King George V Dock, London and later to Tilbury.
Turbines removed - two donated to the Science Museum, London and one retained on the vessel (one now at the Scottish maritime Museum, Irvine)
Damaged by fire during refitting. Laid up.
Sold to brewers Bass-Charrington (Toby Restaurants Division) in 1987 : this company is now part of Mitchells & Butlers plc.
Refitted at the Crescent Shipyard, Chatham with new funnels, masts, companionways and bulkheads. Warren Smith Architects involved in the design work.
Moved on July 29th 1988 to the Embankment in central London under tow by Warrior, Triton and Sir Aubrey of Warrior Towage Ltd.
In her new position, she replaced her former Clyde fleetmate
PS Caledonia, which was lost to fire at her Embankment berth in 1980
Soon after arrival her white and black funnels aquired two red bands soararated by a white band with a thin black line around the centre of the white band.

Received a major refurbishment in 1997 at Chatham at a reported cost of GBP 2.5 million and reappeared with buff funnels with black tops.
In 2005 her upper works were painted light blue,herventilators being buff to match the funnel
In February 2006 the blue was overpainted with brilliant white. White funnels with black tops were restored, now featuring a "QM" inscription
Closed for business in January 2009 and sold in April 2009 by Mitchells & Butlers plc, successors to the Bass Retail Leisure organisation
Sold to Mr Samuel Boudon for use as a floating hotel at La Rochelle.
Left London under tow on 9th November 2009 initially for Tilbury Dock and should reopen for business in France in 2011


HISTORICAL PHOTOGRAPH ARCHIVE : QUEEN MARY FROM 1933 UNTIL THE PRESENT DAY
More historical information and links to external information sources and photographs


Click here to go to the Queen Mary photograph collection and links to other relevant material 

 

Many people may remember Queen Mary like this, with one funnel after her re-boilering in early 1957. Joe Dalrymple kindly supplied this photo of her at Dunoon in 1962


THE HISTORICAL CASE FOR HER PRESERVATION IS COMPELLING


The importance and uniqueness of ships can often be overstated and it is wrong to make too many claims to fame for any ships, but in the 21st century we are now seeing quite a few "last ofs" and Queen Mary can claim one of these as well as a strong direct link to a fleet-mate which really was a "first of" of her type worldwide

- Direct link (ownership, construction yard, general design principles, service history) to the world's first ever steam turbine powered passenger ship (King Edward of 1901)

- The last surviving turbine powered coastal cruising excursion steamer on the UK's National Register of Historic Vessels (NRHV) and the last of her class worldwide

- With her steam turbines still in preservation, she is one of the last few remaining non-military turbine ships of any type still in existence anywhere as this once-dominant form of propulsion now disappears from the marine engineering scene

Her importance to the social history of Glasgow and the Firth of Clyde should not be underestimated. She followed her predecessors by being primarily based in the centre of Glasgow and ferrying many hundreds of thousands of its citizens to the Clyde resorts for day trips and for their annual holidays. Going "doon the watter" was one of the timeless aspects of industrial Glasgow's life - a rare chance to escape the city for the fresh air and beautiful scenery of the Firth - in a ship built along the banks of the Clyde alongside some of the world's most important vessels of their day. 

She has, of course, the popular acclaim of being the "original" Queen Mary and holding the name that the Cunard line wished for its new ocean liner, the largest in the world for many years. The generosity of her owners saw the name go to the Cunarder which still lies in Long Beach, California, to this day, whilst the Clyde steamer became "Queen Mary II" for most of its working life and sported a gifted portrait of the monarch in her forward saloon in appreciation.


THE FOUNDATION WILL DO WHAT IT CAN TO PROMOTE THE SUCCESS OF QUEEN MARY IN HER NEW ROLE AS A HOTEL AND MAINTAIN INTEREST IN HER AMONGST ENTHUSIASTS IN THE U.K.


The Clyde Turbine Steamer Foundation is dedicated to ensuring the long-term survival of Queen Mary in a suitable role. Having failed in an earlier attempt to find an organisation willing to establish her as a floating maritime museum in the Glasgow area, despite raising significant finance to enable her purchase and delivery, it will now seek to ensure that she is successful in her new role as a hotel.
Whilst she still exists, is taken good care of and not altered significantly externally, there is always hope for her future.

We hope to continue to provide information about her when she is in La Rochelle and to receive photographs for this website and our archive.

If you would like to invest in the La Rochelle project as a business venture, I can put you in touch with the new owner. She should become a high quality boutique hotel in one of France's most popular resorts.

If there is ever any risk to Queen Mary in future, would you be willing and able to step in? The webmaster would still like to be aware of anyone who shares his interest in Queen Mary, so that an informal circulation list for matters of interest can be maintained. If it is important to you that Queen Mary is never threatened with the scrapyard
please e-mail Gordon Stewart at the Foundation on this link.


DO YOU WANT TO SEE QUEEN MARY SAIL AGAIN IN THE U.K. EXCURSION TRADE ?


That is now most unlikely, but there is a growing belief that there is scope for the introduction of a major excursion ship to sail in conjunction with Waverley and Balmoral. It would likely need some revenue support and active involvement of enthusiasts, but if operated alongside these other classic excursion vessels, it could benefit from and provide for economies of scale and sharing of costs. Her ownership and operation would need to be in the hands of a professional organisation. With the old Queen Mary gone, why not dust down the original plans and build a new vessel incorporating the highest modern standards and best materials yet recreate one of the finest coastal cruising vessels ever operated. It would surely be more cost effective than restoring the old vessel. The cost ?  Maybe GBP 8 to 10 million. A fantastic legacy for a sympathetic corporation, successful entrpreneur or even a winner of a weekly game of chance which is now creating a number of individuals with real wealth..........


A new Queen Mary, most likely seen on her trials in 1933, in a post card view kindly supplied by Gillon Ferguson. Was there ever a finer coastal excursion steamer ?


GO OR RETURN TO THESE SECTIONS OF THE CLYDE TURBINE STEAMER FOUNDATION WEBSITE


Williamson-Buchanan Steamers Ltd : Queen Mary's first owners
Caledonian Steam Packet Company : the operators she is most commonly associated with
Caledonian-MacBrayne : who took control for the final years of her operational life
Clyde Steamers of the 1930s : A review of the decade and its new ships by Gordon Stewart
Clyde Turbine Steamer Foundation Main Menu

FOR MORE ABOUT CLYDE STEAMERS IN GENERAL AND PADDLE STEAMERS PAST AND PRESENT ......


The Paddle Steamer Caledonia (left) was built by the same yard as Queen Mary, but one year later. She sailed on the Clyde alongside the turbine steamer until late 1969 and was Queen Mary's predecessor at Waterloo Bridge in London until lost to fire in 1980. Although best known at this time for building turbine steamers, Wm Denny also built the hull and engines of the iconic US stern-wheeled paddle steamer Delta Queen seven years before construction of Queen Mary, plus many other paddlers for river and estuarine service in Britain and abroad.

The full story of the Clyde Steamers is described on the Paddle Steamer Resources by Tramscape website, the internet's leading information source about paddle steamers past and present.

Go to the Paddle Steamer Resources by Tramscape Website


THE LAST SURVIVING CLYDE STEAMER

One Clyde steamer steams on into the 21st century

The Paddle Steamer Resources website covers PS Waverley (right) in detail along with all the world's surviving sidewheelers ...... and much more


Please note that this is an unofficial website, not connected in any way with past or present owners of the Queen Mary. The Clyde Turbine Steamer Foundation aims to retain the memory of her long career and to have cordial relations with the owners in order to help promote her in her current role.


THE WEBMASTER


Gordon Stewart at the Foundation can be contacted on this link


 Tramscape and Gordon Stewart.
All photographs displayed are with the permission of the acknowledged photographer but are not to be copied for re-use for any other website or publication without the specific authorisation of the photographer. You are welcome to use the text from this website as a research source and basis for your own work but it should not be copied and republished elsewhere verbatim or only slightly altered.
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